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| Author: | Tom Harbin [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:28 am ] |
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For some time I have been looking at the various vacuum options to use for glueing/guitar holder, etc. Just wondering what all think about the compressor vacuum valve that LMI sells as opposed to using a vacuum pump. Any advangages/disadvantages. Also, how does the old style guitar holder that LMI has compare to the new style? LMI is clearancing out the old model for quite a bit less that the new model. THanks for any help Tom Harbin |
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| Author: | SimonF [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:37 am ] |
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I have the LMII vacuum pump. It does the job well but is constantly running. If I had to do it over, (and I will within the year) I would build one of these: http://www.joewoodworker.com/veneering/partsoverview.htm Relatively inexpensive, and they would be excellent for what we do. However, I do recommend LMII's valve that reads PSI and the vacuum release. Hopefully, someone will chime in about the compressor vacuum valve from LMII. Peace Out, Simon |
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| Author: | Tom Harbin [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:36 am ] |
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Thanks Simon: Anyone else out there that has done a Joe Woodworker vacuum kit, please let me know which type and how you like it. tom |
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| Author: | JWarwick [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:42 am ] |
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Hi Tom, I've used the little venturi pump from LMI for the last 6 years or so ... works well. I've switched over to a continuos vacuum pump system which I like much more. I use the refurbished Thomas pump from joewoodworker.com. Great little unit: 
I've donated my venturi pump to OLF ... Lance is going to put it up for auction soon, I think. Best, Jim |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:53 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Tom Harbin] Thanks Simon: Anyone else out there that has done a Joe Woodworker vacuum kit, please let me know which type and how you like it. tom[/QUOTE] I have the Joe Woodworker set up with the GAST pump. It works flawlessly. |
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| Author: | letseatpaste [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:16 am ] |
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Is the JoeWoodworker setup superior to the LMII vacuum set up (not the venturi that runs off of a compressor)? It's a little more expensive with the JW setup, but not by much. |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:01 pm ] |
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When I was making drums, I used a vacuum setup for veneering. I used this one: http://www.vacupress.com/products2.htm#compact100 It is $336 and comes with a bag. They'll take the cost of the bag off for you. The only issue is that it doesn't have a regulator, which means it will crush most anything unless reinforced. It was a flawless setup though and didn't take any time at all to get running. You can add the regulator. |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:38 pm ] |
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i have the joewoodworker venturi and reservoir system as well as a commercial venturi powered workholder/routing clamp. the joewoodworker system is cheaper than the lmi venturi and works very well. i used a vacuum pump for powering routing clamps, etc., for years but find the venturi system better. any vacuum system is improved out of sight with a reservoir. |
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| Author: | Bob Garrish [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:17 pm ] |
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I have a venturi from Quality Vakuum and it works pretty well. Using the regulator on the venturi, I can 'dial in' the amount of vacuum I want depending on the leakage in a system. With something like a bag you can always seal it off once you pull the vacuum you want, if you're running fragile parts or something. I might end up putting a tank inline with it but at the moment that seems unnecessary. |
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| Author: | Tom Harbin [ Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:52 am ] |
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Thanks for all the replies. I've still got some homework to do. thanks, Tom H |
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| Author: | Shawn [ Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:58 am ] |
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I have been using the vacuum pump system as per joewoodworker's plans for over 3 years with perfect results. I bought a used Gast pump on eBay before he started selling them on his site. It is much quieter than a venturi system, especially when you use a large auxillary tank to reduce the pump cycling. |
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| Author: | letseatpaste [ Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:10 am ] |
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Shawn, which style/model of Gast pump did you get, rotary vane or diaphragm? Something else? Thanks for the review, I'm seriously looking into making one. Noise is a big issue for me, which is why I suspect I'd like the JW system over the continuous run pump on the LMI setup. |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:34 am ] |
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The continuous run actually isn't that loud. The one in the LMI pic looks exactly like what I had before selling it. Not loud at all. They aren't like air compressors, or at least what I had wasn't. |
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| Author: | letseatpaste [ Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:37 am ] |
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I figured they wouldn't be all that loud, I remember Harry Fleishman had two or three old fridge motors as vacuum pumps in his shop and it wasn't that bad. Still, if more silence can be had for a comparable price... |
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